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Title: How much are we all like YUI?
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hbdcrKevin - May 3, 2008 04:58 AM (GMT)
How much are each of us like YUI??

:clap

First, here's a quick quiz to see how much we are all alike...or not.

Simple.... there are no right or wrong answers, just choose which sounds more like YOU.

If the statement sounds like you (is true about you) click YES.
If the statement isn't like you (is not true about you) click NO.

Won't take long....When you're done just click the score button!

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

Then come back and fill in the poll.

(Since the poll only allows 15 options, I will leave one possibility out....sorry. If it's a problem you can yell at me later!!!)

=P

I have a theory about Yui-Lovers! But I'll save it for later so that I don't influence the test and poll results.

If you want, you can say what you got...I'll tell you mine later...but if you don't feel like telling, no problem. Just take the poll so we can get the big picture of YUI-Lovers. Then we can discuss whether any of this means anything.

:sry

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Okay, activity has slowed on this thread, so we’re not likely to get many more responses. We did rather well getting forty poll answers. (I’m including myself as the lone iNTp. As I mentioned earlier, the poll only allowed 15 options, so I left mine off. I hope if there are more iNTp’s out there you’ll say something.)

Anyway, I find the results rather intriguing. There are some big skews.

Here’s what I’m going to do....First I’ll tell you what I think I see in these results and then I’ll try to give my appraisal of YUI’s temperament. But a couple disclaimers....One, while I’ve read quite a bit on temperament, that doesn’t qualify me as an expert by any means. And Two, this is absolutely NOT a scientific poll. But let’s get started.

One of the problems with doing studies on temperament is the difficulty in getting valid pools of respondents. If you test at the accounting office you’ll skew towards Guardians, and if you test at the Green Peace rally you’ll skew toward Idealists. This has resulted in some disagreement between studies which try to put general population percentages on various types. In fact Keirsey’s own numbers have changed in the thirty-some years he’s been studying this, probably because he’s gotten better at finding representative pools from which to draw his statistics.

Since the test given here was along Keirsey’s formula, and since I am most familiar with Keirsey’s definitions and numbers I’ll be roughly using his numbers for reference. And again this only tells us about the people who chose to respond, which may not be representative of this forum’s membership in general much less YUI fans in general.

Lets start with the Introvert/Extrovert scale.

Of 40 respondents we got 32 introverts and 8 extroverts. That’s 80% introverts!!!
Estimates of the general population vary widely from as low as 25% to as high as 45% with the general consensus being around 35%. (I suspect they’re not quite measuring the same way, and that this is more than just a sample pool problem) Still, we clearly skew away from the general population on this one.

On the Perceiver/Judger scale we got 19 Perceivers and 21 Judgers which is almost exactly along the lines of the general population.

On the Thinker/Feeler scale we got 21 Thinkers and 19 Feelers. This scale is the only one which shows a sexual distinction. The theory is that in the general population about 65% of males are Thinkers while about 65% of females are Feelers. Socio-biologists have explanations for these trends, but I won’t get into it. In any case, I have no way of knowing the M/F ratio of those responding, but I have the general impression that this forum skews slightly toward male, so I’m assuming that we are not far from typical on this parameter.

On the iNtuitive/Sensor scale, however, the numbers distinctly skew. We got 18 iNtuitives (45%) and 22 Sensors (55%). The general population is about 13% iNtuitives and 87% Sensors. Clearly, compared to the general population, we skew far toward iNtuitive on this parameter.

So let’s look at it from the four temperament types angle.

Our results of 40 respondents are:
SJ (Guardians) = 25% (10) ......general population = 44% (A little over 1/2 what we would expect)
SP (Artisans) = 30% (12).........general population = 43% (A little under3/4 what we would expect)
NF (Idealists) = 25% (10)........general population = 7% (3.5 x expected numbers)
NT (Rationals) = 20% (8).........general population = 6% (Nearly 3.5 x expected numbers)

(BTW, the numbers on Keirsey’s website don’t agree with his books, and I know that Keirsey is not running his own web site...some guy named Kip Something is running it. I don’t remember exactly how I figured this out in the past, but I can tell you that it appears that they are using online responses as their base numbers, which is just WRONG ... particularly for a website that people turn to for expertise and authority. The result of this strategy is that Artisans get severely under-represented while Idealists get grossly over-represented and Rationals get slightly over-represented...so I’m using numbers from off-line sources....specifically Keirsey’s books)

When looking at specific types, we get:

iStP = 8 (20% compared with about 10% of the general populace) 2 x expected.
iNTj = 5 (12.5% compared with 1% ) 12.5 x expected
iNFj = 5 (12.5% compared with 1%+) 12.5 x expected
iNFp = 4 (10% compared with 1%) 10 x expected
iSfJ = 4 (10% compared with 10%) As expected
iStJ = 3 (7.5% compared with 10%) 3/4 expected
eStJ = 2 (5% compared with 12%) Less than 1/2 expected
iSfP =2 (5% compared with 10%) 1/2 expected
eSfP = 2 (5% compared with 12%) Less than 1/2 expected
eSfJ = 1 (2.5% compared with 12%) Almost 1/5 expected
eNFp = 1 (2.5% compared with 3%) About as expected
eNTp = 1 (2.5% compared with 2%) About as expected
eNTj = 1 (2.5% compared with 2%+) About as expected
iNTp = 1 (2.5% compared with -1%) About as expected
eStP = 0 (0.0% compared with 11%) Where are they????
eNFj = 0 (0.0% compared with 2%) Ummmm.

At first glance the 8 iStP’s look significant, but on inspection it is the iNTj’s, iNFj’s and iNFp’s that are severely over-represented.

So what does all this mean? I’m not sure, but my gut instinct tells me it says far less about YUI fans than it says about who tends to be online, who tends to join forums, and who tends to respond to polls of this nature. I wish there was an easy way to do a scientific poll, but I don’t see that as realistic.

If we could legitimately assume that the numbers represent this community, and also if we could assume that we are here because we share traits in common with YUI, then we could conclude that the numbers would point us toward discovering YUI’s temperament. But I don’t know of any evidence to support either assumption. I have to remember two figures of speech....Birds of a feather flock together ....and... Opposites attract.

A part of me would like to believe that many of us are here because we share an affinity with YUI....that we are taken with her music because she somehow speaks to and for our hearts and minds. I’m not ready to dismiss this theory, but I have to admit that I can’t prove it, even with the results of this little test. Again, this test is not scientific, and even if it was, it wouldn’t prove the cause of the correlation.

One other theory I would like to test (but won’t try) is that there is a temperamental difference in peoples preferences for her different songs. More specifically, I have a theory the people that prefer the acoustic ballad type songs (Tokyo) are temperamentally different than those that prefer the faster, poppy songs (Rolling Star). But again, I’m not even going to attempt to test it.

I’ll write the rest , my actual appraisal of YUI’s temperament, soon.

Cybergeron89 - May 3, 2008 05:13 AM (GMT)
ISTP
i think i was ISTJ .the last time i took something like this ...whats YUI's? :)

diablorule - May 3, 2008 05:30 AM (GMT)
mine is esfp.
no time to read about it..

hbdcrKevin - May 3, 2008 05:59 AM (GMT)
I don't know...I have a couple guesses, but they're really only guesses so far.

Part of my theory is that this poll might skew in certain directions and tell us....like we all have some way of connecting to her.

But if it's going to work, we would need a definite skew, and we would need a BIG sample size. I'm hoping for more than thirty scores to start seeing a picture. One hundred would be much better.

So there are three responses now....mine doesn't show on the poll because I decided if one type had to be left off I guess I should do it to myself first.

There are 16 types and the poll only allows 15 options.

I left off my type... iNTp

xela - May 3, 2008 06:24 AM (GMT)
me.ISTP...i'm a perciever....

cherii - May 3, 2008 06:39 AM (GMT)
I didn't understand some of the questions. Haha. So, my result isn't very accurate.

I'm either ISFJ or eSFJ...my result was pretty much in between them. (I tried it twice)

hbdcrKevin - May 3, 2008 07:06 AM (GMT)
That's okay Cherii...the questions are designed that way intentionally. Some people are very strong in their temperament type, and some people are more balanced. It's okay to skip some questions if you're not sure.

Actually, these tests often give inaccurate results because a lot of people haven't ever really thought about it before. After awhile though, most people begin to know with more certainty where they are.

And I have to repeat this....there is no right or wrong temperament. Every temperament type has its own strengths and its own weaknesses. And in the long run we all end up thinking our own temperament type is the best. If we didn't we wouldn't be that type.

And we are hardwired in our brains to be that way, just like being right-handed or left-handed....and at the same time, if we work hard with our non-dominant hand, we can make it stronger...same thing with temperaments.

But if there weren't Guardians (the SJ types) things would tend to be much less organized.
If there weren't any Artisans (the SP types) there would be much less spontaneity and fun in the world.
If there were no Idealists (the NF types) the world might lose its heart and soul.
And if there were no Rationals (the NT types) we might go much longer between new scientific discoveries.

In short, every temperament type brings good things to the world. And every temperament type has its blind spots.

town_el - May 3, 2008 07:30 AM (GMT)
mine:
QUOTE
Your Type is
ISFP
Introverted Sensing Feeling Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
78 1 25 22

yoshiro - May 3, 2008 07:33 AM (GMT)
this quiz is just a tad bit confusing....

pandas who read this scare me - May 3, 2008 03:37 PM (GMT)
my Type is
ISTP
You are:
slightly expressed introvert

slightly expressed sensing personality

slightly expressed thinking personality

slightly expressed perceiving personality


by8n7 - May 3, 2008 03:51 PM (GMT)
i just picked the first two..
b/c i had no idea what those words ment..
im too stupid..dont use big words on me

Razgriz - May 3, 2008 05:09 PM (GMT)
I got INTJ

# distinctively expressed introvert
# moderately expressed intuitive personality
# moderately expressed thinking personality
# moderately expressed judging personality

Cybergeron89 - May 3, 2008 08:11 PM (GMT)
Hm, lots of ISTPs ...haha.:)

town_el - May 3, 2008 08:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (hbdcrKevin @ May 3 2008, 02:06 PM)
Actually, these tests often give inaccurate results because a lot of people haven't ever really thought about it before.  After awhile though, most people begin to know with more certainty where they are.

Hm... i've tried it again.. and the result is still the same.. except this time the Sensing and Feeling score are different.. still ISFP though~
uh well~
QUOTE
Your Type is
ISFP
Introverted Sensing Feeling Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
78 25 50 22


You are:
    * very expressed introvert
    * moderately expressed sensing personality
    * moderately expressed feeling personality
    * slightly expressed perceiving personality

milkyway - May 3, 2008 10:43 PM (GMT)
lol..cant choose coz don even understnd those words...runs to get dictionary! okay, il post after few more s\posts :P

hp230dsr - May 4, 2008 01:31 AM (GMT)
INTJ, HERE ^__^

asuna - May 4, 2008 03:36 AM (GMT)
me got iSTJ! but i voted iSTP anyway because my J score was like... 1? lol

the_alchemist - May 4, 2008 07:41 AM (GMT)
my tipe is INFP

* very expressed introvert
* slightly expressed intuitive personality
* moderately expressed feeling personality
* slightly expressed perceiving personality




cherii - May 4, 2008 08:39 AM (GMT)
Wow...most of us are introverts.

Erm...I'm that surprised.

I wonder what YUI is.

harry - May 4, 2008 10:37 AM (GMT)
mine's ENFJ!

*distinctively expressed extravert
*moderately expressed intuitive personality
*moderately expressed feeling personality
*slightly expressed judging personality

what's this suppose to mean? @@

reddishlypink - May 4, 2008 02:34 PM (GMT)
infj.

found it rather funny... it just explained .. me XD

well some parts XD

yuichiyo - May 5, 2008 09:51 AM (GMT)
mine is
ISFJ
I-56
S-12
F-12
J-1
*moderately expressed introvert

*slightly expressed sensing personality

*slightly expressed feeling personality

*slightly expressed judging personality

wahahahaha!!!true!!! :clap

br4d137 - May 5, 2008 08:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (harry @ May 4 2008, 04:37 AM)
mine's ENFJ!

*distinctively expressed extravert
*moderately expressed intuitive personality
*moderately expressed feeling personality
*slightly expressed judging personality

what's this suppose to mean? @@

high five!

also an ENFJ

mines not on the choices to vote..

yupeh - May 5, 2008 09:14 PM (GMT)
Mine is..
* distinctively expressed introvert
* slightly expressed intuitive personality
* slightly expressed feeling personality
* slightly expressed perceiving personality

Introverted - 67
Intuitive - 12
Feeling - 12
Perceiving - 11

hbdcrKevin - May 5, 2008 10:28 PM (GMT)
Hmmm,

We're getting interesting results. I see a few trends, particularly the one very clear tendency towards introversion.

I'm going to resist any specific discussion for a few more days in the hope of picking up a bunch more "data points." (How do you all like being called "data points?" lol)

One disclaimer...this is not at all a scientific survey.

Are there any iNTp's out there, or I the only one? If there are, I'm hoping you'll say something to let me know. I had to leave one type off of the list and so that's the one I left off. All the other types are there, so if anyone didn't find theirs, please look again. Sorry, I shuffled them up a bit.


yue_yoshioka - May 6, 2008 12:53 AM (GMT)
Here's mine:

INFJ

Introverted Intuitive Feeling Judging
Strength of the preferences %
33 25 12 67


Hehehe, I like this test. :good


Type Description

Beneath the quiet exterior, INFJs hold deep convictions about the weightier matters of life. Those who are activists -- INFJs gravitate toward such a role -- are there for the cause, not for personal glory or political power.

INFJs are champions of the oppressed and downtrodden. They often are found in the wake of an emergency, rescuing those who are in acute distress. INFJs may fantasize about getting revenge on those who victimize the defenseless. The concept of 'poetic justice' is appealing to the INFJ.

"There's something rotten in Denmark." Accurately suspicious about others' motives, INFJs are not easily led. These are the people that you can rarely fool any of the time. Though affable and sympathetic to most, INFJs are selective about their friends. Such a friendship is a symbiotic bond that transcends mere words.

INFJs have a knack for fluency in language and facility in communication. In addition, nonverbal sensitivity enables the INFJ to know and be known by others intimately.

Writing, counseling, public service and even politics are areas where INFJs frequently find their niche.

diablorule - May 6, 2008 03:11 AM (GMT)
anyone else is esfp except me?

Kevin, is there any way to see the analysis for the test w/o answering it again? I had no time to look at my results the other time :gboy

hbdcrKevin - May 6, 2008 07:27 AM (GMT)
Here is a description specifically of eSfP. SP is generally refered to as Artisan. David Keirsey refers to the eSfP as the Performer. Here is a short description from his web page.

http://www.keirsey.com/handler.aspx?s=keir...b=4&c=performer

I trust Keirsey's analysis more than most other sources...I have found inconsistencies and outright error in some author's writings on the subject. The people running Keirsey's website charge $$$ to see the complete results of your test, so I didn't use their test for everybody here. However, you can read the descriptions of any of the 16 types by starting here:

http://www.keirsey.com/handler.aspx?s=keir...ab=1&c=overview

There are many more websites out there that claim to be experts on temperament. I have found some others that look competent, by I have also found mystics, religious quacks and outright con artists. Right now the only site I know to tell you that I'm completely confident in is Keirsey's. Here's the wikipedia article on him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keirsey

And if any of you want to get any deeper into this, I suggest you go to a good college library and see if you can find these books:

http://www.amazon.com/Please-Understand-Te...e/dp/1885705026

http://www.amazon.com/Gifts-Differing-Unde...e/dp/089106074X

http://www.amazon.com/Type-Talk-Personalit...e/dp/0440507049

yue_yoshioka - May 6, 2008 08:50 AM (GMT)
You're right hbdcrKevin. :good

I also like Keirsey's analysis, views & explanation about the 4 temperaments. :good :good

diablorule - May 6, 2008 09:42 AM (GMT)
wow his analysis is really spot on..
THX Kevin :clap

diablorule - May 10, 2008 05:07 AM (GMT)
hey guys can those who have not done the test pls do it...
cause i wanna know hbdcr analysis of YUI =O

anotheryuifan - May 11, 2008 04:51 AM (GMT)
so long...*click click* @@
Finally finished!!
i'm "iNTJ ...introverted, iNtuitive, Thinking, judger"
well...that was fun

Shifty - May 12, 2008 02:02 AM (GMT)
I like personality tests!
I have ...or I am...?
QUOTE
Your Type is
INFJ
Introverted Intuitive Feeling Judging
Strength of the preferences % 
67 25 38 11


And I think it's true...so true...

Taking these tests and reading the analysis afterwards always gives you this "acknowledgement" or "confirmation" about who you are. (Or who you might be)

INFJ are pretty rare in general, but not here on YL it seems :P

More people should do the test, on one hand, I too want to see hbdcrKevin's theory, but whats even more, it's good/fun to take personality tests. It is kinda helpful in understanding yourself.
But then again, don't rely on it too much, since it might not be 100% accurate. And you should just live your life the way you want, and not the way it's describe as your personality.


About the tendency towards introversion: well I guess that was kind of expected huh?

Anyway more voters we need!

hbdcrKevin - May 17, 2008 03:20 PM (GMT)
Bump.

:sry

Original post....on top...revised.

diablorule - May 17, 2008 09:09 PM (GMT)
haha hbdcrKevin nice effort on analysis...wonder why there are so few artisians in this forum @@


anotheryuifan - May 18, 2008 02:09 AM (GMT)
@@ nice but confusing analysis
I'd like to believe in your theory too hbdcrKevin
...just wished more people took some time to do this test...-.-"

Shifty - May 18, 2008 05:05 PM (GMT)
Firts of all...I didn't expect you'd be actually doing all this hbdcrKevin. You actually MADE AN ANALYSIS, and also in the scientific way. Wooh I don't even want to do this for school =O

But it is a nice analysis, It was a nice read.

QUOTE
At first glance the 8 iStP’s look significant, but on inspection it is the iNTj’s, iNFj’s and iNFp’s that are severely over-represented.

So what does all this mean?  I’m not sure, but my gut instinct tells me it says far less about YUI fans than it says about who tends to be online, who tends to join forums, and who tends to respond to polls of this nature.  I wish there was an easy way to do a scientific poll, but I don’t see that as realistic.


So what you are basically saying is that all those iNTj's, iNFj's and iNFp's are people who always stays home, go online on the internet, join forums, make tests like these and got absolutley no life at all.......geesh.....well thanks I needed that... :what
(sarcasm)

QUOTE
If we could legitimately assume that the numbers represent this community, and also if we could assume that we are here because we share traits in common with YUI, then we could conclude that the numbers would point us toward discovering YUI’s temperament.  But I don’t know of any evidence to support either assumption.  I have to remember two figures of speech....Birds of a feather flock together ....and... Opposites attract. 

A part of me would like to believe that many of us are here because we share an affinity with YUI....that we are taken with her music because she somehow speaks to and for our hearts and minds.  I’m not ready to dismiss this theory, but I have to admit that I can’t prove it, even with the results of this little test. Again, this test is not scientific, and even if it was, it wouldn’t prove the cause of the correlation.


Hmm, it's true that we are limited by the results of the people who took the test, so it might not be representative for the YUI Fans as a whole, so we can't actually draw any conclusion. But like you said this isn't a real scientific analysis, so we can make some assumptions right? I too believe that most of YUI's fans like here because they can find something in common in her. But like you said "opposites attract". That's also true, but I think it we just look at these results we can say that there are more fans who like YUI because they're the "same" then those who like here but are "not the same"?


QUOTE
One other theory I would like to test (but won’t try) is that there is a temperamental difference in peoples preferences for her different songs.  More specifically, I have a theory the people that prefer the acoustic ballad type songs (Tokyo) are temperamentally different than those that prefer the faster, poppy songs (Rolling Star).  But again, I’m not even going to attempt to test it.


Wooh I would love to read this too, but yeah, it IS kinda hard to test this. There are theories though about the music taste one has and their personality.

So anyway, great job hbdcrKevin! :good
Conclusion is, we can't really make a 100% waterproof conclusion, but we can make some assumptions?

I'm looking forward to your analysis attempt on YUI's temperament.
I'm thinking she is a Idealist, well I hope so, cause I'm one myself :P

atheon - May 22, 2008 06:30 PM (GMT)
YOUR TYPE
I N T J
Strength of the preferences %
78 25 50 44


Nice analysis there =D

babz90 - June 5, 2008 03:20 AM (GMT)
i'm ENFP




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