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Title: Japanese with Riyoku-kun?
Description: nah, I don't like formalities lol


animeallen - January 4, 2006 01:48 PM (GMT)
I'm not much of a teacher but I'll try my best to teach everyone everything I know in Japanese, though I myself am not that fluent and also needs some more studies lol

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Lesson: Japanese Numbers

Of course, everyone should know how to count numbers right? Then this lesson might help you on learning that certain topic...

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1 - ichi (一)
2 - ni (二)
3 - san (三)
4 - shi (四)
5 - go (五)
6 - roku (六)
7 - shichi (七)
8 - hachi (八)
9 - ku [kyuu] (九)
10 - jyuu (十)
100 - hyaku (百)
1000 - sen  (千)

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Tens:

72

The number is exactly pronounced as:
Seven Ten, Two which is in Japanese "shichi jyuu ni", here are more examples to be given:

48 - shi jyuu hachi (four tens eight) [四十八]
50 - go jyuu (five tens) [五十]
99 - ku jyuu ku (nine tens nine) [九十九]

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Hundreds:

272

Like in the tens, the same rule applies and is exactly pronounced as:
Two Hundreds, Seven Tens, Two or "ni hyaku shichi jyuu ni", more examples to be given:

480 - shi hyaku hachi jyuu (four hundreds eight tens) [四百八十]
500 - go hyaku (five hundreds) [五百]
999 - ku hyaku ku jyuu ku (nine hundreds nine tens nine) [九百九十九]

There is another rules in Japanese wherein you say "hyaku" as "byaku" when using numbers from 300-399, here's an examples for you're understanding:

372 - san byaku shichi jyuu ni (three hundreds eight tens nine) [三百七十二]

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Thousands:

7467

Like before, the same rule applies and is exactly pronounced as:
Seven Thousands, Four Hundreds, Six Tens, Seven or "shichi sen shi hyaku roku jyuu shichi", more examples to be given:

4800 - shi sen hachi hyaku (four thousands eight hundreds) [四千八百]
5000 - go sen (five thousands) [五千]
9999 - ku sen ku hyaku ku jyuu ku (nine thousands nine hundreds nine tens nine) [九千九百九十九]

Like the previous rule in Tens, we pronounce "sen" as "zen" when using numbers from 3000-3999, here's another example:

3720 - san zen shichi hyaku ni jyuu (three thousands seven hundreds two tens) [三千七百二十]

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Ten Thousands:
This one took me sometime to understand and I really can't teach this level that much so I'll just try to make it as simple as I can that it'd look as if it's just an introduction, cause it's not that clear to me too lol

In Ten Thousands, we just add the "-man" as a suffix to the number to make it ten thousands. For instance, ichi-man would be 10000, ni-man, san-man, shi-man... etc. and so on, I can use ten thousands already it's just that I'm not to sure on teaching it, I don't want to make a mistake teaching nonsene, ne?

EndtoInfinity930 - January 5, 2006 12:01 AM (GMT)
Ah, yes, Japanese numbers... so much easier than saying English numbers..haha. Looking forward to more of your lessons!

swtazngal - January 8, 2006 04:16 AM (GMT)
Ehhhh I think I'll have to stick with Chinese..^^! Japanese numbers 10+ are like tongue twisters to me XD

viper92583 - January 19, 2006 09:19 AM (GMT)
when do you use yon instead of shi? Cause I thought 4 could be translated either way depending on context...

atheon - January 19, 2006 11:34 AM (GMT)
and 7 also can be either 'nana' or 'shichi'
speaking of when we should use.....i think mostly depends on which 1 you like lol i don't know.....:P
from what i observed, through drama and music show, normally if more then 10 they will use yon/nana.......
oh and its almost the same they way chinese and japanese pronouce and write numbers.

animeallen - January 20, 2006 01:41 PM (GMT)
Actually, that's how I also think of it :huh: I think it just depends on how you speak? :P

atheon - January 20, 2006 01:52 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (animeallen @ Jan 20 2006, 01:41 PM)
Actually, that's how I also think of it :huh: I think it just depends on how you speak? :P

I wonder how they do countdowns during new years and stuff......well for Hamasaki Ayumi, her sequence is:

10 - jyuu
9 - kyuu
8 - hachi
7 - nana
6 - roku
5 - go
4 - yon
3 - san
2 - ni
1 - ichi

:P

viper92583 - January 20, 2006 02:33 PM (GMT)
thanks for clearing that up...and now that you mention it, I remember nana and shichi...

EndtoInfinity930 - January 21, 2006 07:19 PM (GMT)
'shi' and 'shichi' can ONLY be used for 4 and 7. 'Yon' and 'nana' can be used for 4 and 7 also. But for numbers 10+, you HAVE to use 'yon' and 'nana'.

Does that clear everything up? :D

viper92583 - January 21, 2006 09:31 PM (GMT)
awesome...

yeah...that was actually exactly the answer i was looking for...

ron214 - January 30, 2006 08:01 PM (GMT)
additional- This is one of my first Lessons. though havent finished studying it yet.

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0 = rei, maru, zero
1 = ichi
2 = ni
3 = san
4 = shi, yon
5 = go
6 = roku
7 = sichi, nana
8 = hachi
9 = ku, kyuu
10 = juu
To form numbers from 11 to 19, start with juu, 10, then place the number you need after it from the nubers above.
Examples:

11 = juu ichi
12 = juu ni
13 = juu san
14 = juu yon, juu shi
15 = juu go
16 = juu roku
17 = juu nana, juu shichi
18 = juu hachi
19 = juu kyuu, juu ku

NOTE: Some numbers have more than one version.  Depending on the usage, a different version is used. Sometimes one version must be used over, but many times the version used is a personal preference. But there are also some cultural reasons for the different versions.

0- Each version of "0" is used in different situations. rei is used in scientific calculations such as 0.5. maru literally means "circle" and is used to represent the number 0 in phone numbers etc. much in the same way we represent the number 0 with the letter O sometimes. zero is a "borrowed word" from English. It is used in a variety of situations and is probably most common.

4- The number four in Japanese is yon or shi. shi means death.

9- The number nine in Japanese is kyuu or ku. Ku also means suffering.

For these reasons, nine and four are bad luck in Japan. Many apartment buildings in Japan do not have apartments numbered 4 or 9. Both versions are used extensively in Japan, so make sure to remember each one.

THE TENS 10-90
The "ten's" are formed by combining the single numbers with juu. For example, twenty is two tens(ni-juu), fifty is five tens(go-juu). The concept is simple.

10 = juu
20 = ni-juu
30 = san-juu
40 = yon-juu  *never "shi-juu"*
50 = go-juu
60 = roku-juu
70 = nana-juu *never "shichi-juu"*
80 = hachi-juu
90 = kyuu-juu

And the rest is easy. To make a number like 31 just string the numbers thirty and one together. This can be done with all number up to 99.

21 = ni-juu-ichi
22 = ni-juu-ni
23 = ni-juu-san
24 = ni-juu-yon
  = ni-juu-shi
25 = ni-juu-go
26 = ni-juu-roku
27 = ni-juu-nana
  = ni-juu-shichi
28 = ni-juu-hachi
29 = ni-juu-kyuu
  = ni-juu-ku

THE HUNDREDS 100-900
With the hundreds(hyaku) and 1,000(sen) the pattern is basically the same, but there are some variations. The variations are in bold type.

100 = hyaku  *never "ichi-hyaku"*
200 = ni-hyaku
300 = san-byaku  *never "san-hyaku"*
400 = yon-hyaku  *never "shi-hyaku"*
500 = go-hyaku
600 = roppyyaku  *never "roku-hyaku"*
700 = nana-hyaku *never "shichi-hyaku"*
800 = happyaku  *never "hachi-hyaku"*
900 = kyuu-hyaku *never "ku-hyaku"*

THE THOUSANDS 1,000-9,000

1000 = sen, issen *never "ichi-sen"*
2000 = ni-sen
3000 = san-zen  *never "san-sen"*
4000 = yon-sen  *never "shi-sen"*
5000 = go-sen
6000 = roku-sen
7000 = nana-sen  *never "shichi-sen"*
8000 = hassen  *never "hachi-sen"*
9000 = kyuu-sen  *never "ku-sen"*

THE TEN THOUSANDS 10,000's
When the numbers go past 90,000, this same pattern continues. Be Careful! Students of Japanese tend to think that 100, is hyaku-man.The reason for this is that in English 100,000 is one hundred thousand. Don't let the word hundred fool you. A hundred units of man (10,000) is one million, not one hundred thousand. When you calculate the number you must count how many man are in the number. In the case of 100,000 there are 10 man. Therefore the correct number in Japanese for 100,000 is juu-man.

The 1,000 unit ends at 9,000.  After 9,000 the Japanese begin counting in units of 10,000.  Each unit of 10,000 is called man. So, 10,000 is ichi-man because it is 1 unit of 10,000. 20,000 is ni-man which is 2 units of 10,000. This is easy to grasp with practice.

10,000 = ichi-man *never just "man"*
20,000 = ni-man
30,000 = san-man
40,000 = yon-man *never "shi-man"*
50,000 = go-man
60,000 = roku-man
70,000 = nana-man *never "shichi-man"*
80,000 = hachi-man
90,000 = kyuu-man *never "ku-man"*

THE HUNDRED THOUSANDS 100,000's
If one hundred thousand is juu-man then put a 2 (ni) in front of it to make 200,000 (ni-juu-man) and so on.

There is a shortcut for remembering the large numbers. Just remember the two numbers below as is and not how many man there are.

100,000 = juu-man
1,000,000 = hyaku-man

100,000 = juu-man *never "ichi-juu-man"*
200,000 = ni-juu-man
300,000 = san-juu-man
400,000 = yon-juu-man *never "shi-juu-man"*
500,000 = go-juu-man
600,000 = roku-juu-man
700,000 = nana-juu-man *never "shichi-juu-man"
800,000 = hachi-juu-man
900,000 = kyuu-juu-man *never "ku-juu-man"*

THE MILLIONS 1,000,000's
You do the same for the millions. Because you can think of the "million unit" as being hyaku-man you simply add the single digits to increase the units.

1,000,000 = hyaku-man  never "ichi-hyaku-man"
2,000,000 = ni-hyaku-man
3,000,000 = san-byaku-man *never "san-hyaku-man"*
4,000,000 = yon-hyaku-man  *never "shi-hyaku-man"*
5,000,000 = go-hyaku-man
6,000,000 = roppyaku-man  *never "roku-hyaku-man"*
7,000,000 = nana-hyaku-man  *never "shichi-hyaku-man"*
8,000,000 = happyaku-man  *never "hachi-hyaku-man"*
9,000,000 = kyuu-hyaku-man  *never "ku-hyaku-man"*



Orange Toast - January 30, 2006 08:12 PM (GMT)
Ahhh i cant remember this!! All those "u" sounds are messing me up. I'll just stick to my canto.




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